Reagents count error

Posted by Gaowin on Sat 01 Aug 2015 01:08 PM — 31 posts, 111,579 views.

Gaowin Sat 01 Aug 2015 01:08 PM #0

I'm using version 4.98 of MushClient. After I installed Windows 10, the reagents counter was missing, and when I tried to turn the mini window on, it used to give me a movewindow error and now it doesn't say anything.

Count reags works fine, there just isn't a window. The other addons seem to be working. It was working fine in Windows 7.

Gaowin Sat 01 Aug 2015 01:12 PM #1

It got the error again, it's:
Error in movewindow.save_state: no window movement info for: d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f

Fiendish USA Global Moderator Sat 01 Aug 2015 06:45 PM #2

Gaowin said:

the reagents counter was missing

Is that a plugin?

Gaowin Sat 01 Aug 2015 07:00 PM #3

Yes, it's a plugin, is this the wrong place to post it at?

Nick Gammon Australia Forum Administrator Sat 01 Aug 2015 09:23 PM #4

I regret that I don't know what this reagents count plugin, that you speak of, is.

Gaowin Sat 01 Aug 2015 09:31 PM #5

It came with the whole addon package from the MM website. I think it's called count_reagents. I assumed it came from here.

Fiendish USA Global Moderator Sun 02 Aug 2015 04:32 AM #6

I don't know what MM is.

Can you maybe provide a link to the plugin?

Gaowin Sun 02 Aug 2015 11:42 AM #7

MM is Materia Magica, the mud I play. There are several plugins for them.

http://www.materiamagica.com/play/pc/mushclient/mushclient-bundle.html.

Nick Gammon Australia Forum Administrator Mon 03 Aug 2015 08:37 PM #8

Gaowin said:

I'm using version 4.98 of MushClient. After I installed Windows 10, the reagents counter was missing, and when I tried to turn the mini window on, it used to give me a movewindow error and now it doesn't say anything.

Please post the error message.

Gaowin Mon 03 Aug 2015 08:54 PM #9

It's at the top of the postings. Error in movewindow.save_state: no window movement info for: d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f

Nick Gammon Australia Forum Administrator Tue 04 Aug 2015 04:15 AM #10

Please provide a summary of your world configuration:

Either use the scripting Immediate window (Ctrl+I) to execute: Debug ("summary")
or
Install the Summary plugin (see "Summary" feature) and type "summary"

Then copy the resulting information from the output window, and paste into a Forum message.

You need version 4.55 onwards of MUSHclient to do this.

You probably need to delete the state file for your plugin. That information will help work out which file to delete.

Gaowin Tue 04 Aug 2015 11:49 AM #11

Here's the summary:
The software said the size needs to be less then 6000 characters so I'll break it up.


-------------- MUSHclient summary --------------

MUSHclient version: 4.94
Compiled: Jul 28 2014.
Time now: Tuesday, August 04, 2015, 5:47 AM
Client running for:  0d 00h 10m 29s
World opened for:    0d 00h 10m 29s
World connected for: 0d 00h 10m 28s
Operating system: Unknown (Platform 2, Major 6, Minor 2)
Libraries: Lua 5.1.4, PCRE 8.35, PNG 1.5.14, SQLite3 3.8.4.3, Zlib 1.2.8
World name: 'Materia Magica GMCP', ID: 0b9b5196beabf866b5f18fbc
-- Scripting --
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Scripting active: yes
Lua sandbox is 127 characters, DLL loading allowed: yes
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** Timers: 0 in world file, timers enabled: yes.
   0 enabled, 0 fired.
   Timers checked every 0.1 seconds.
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Gaowin Tue 04 Aug 2015 11:50 AM #12


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Nick Gammon Australia Forum Administrator Tue 04 Aug 2015 08:04 PM #13

That's a lot of plugins! Under your plugins folder (which itself is under the worlds folder) there should be a folder called "state" which is where the plugin state files are.

Based on your world ID and plugin ID there should be a file in the "state" folder called:


0b9b5196beabf866b5f18fbc-d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f-state.xml

That's the world ID followed by the plugin ID for the "reagents_counter" plugin.

Close MUSHclient. Then delete that file (0b9b5196beabf866b5f18fbc-d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f-state.xml). Then re-open MUSHclient.

Warning: If the state file holds all sorts of useful information this may not be a good idea. I'm not sure what that plugin does, so I can't say.

You may want to make a copy of that state file before deleting it, in case you lose valuable info about your reagents.

Also see the web page about that plugin https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/65599194/html/Reagents_Buy_plugin.html. You could ask the author for advice. Judging by what that says it just automates buying reagents, it may not remember useful things.

Nick Gammon Australia Forum Administrator Tue 04 Aug 2015 08:06 PM #14

I notice the reagents plugin has a window:


Window: 'd2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f', at (1403,444,1560,634), shown: yes
        width: 157, height: 190, position: 0, hotspots: 3, fonts: 2, images: 0

I gather you can't see it? It might be off to one side. Can you make the MUSHclient window larger temporarily? It looks like it is at X=1403, Y=1560 position on the screen.

Try fiddling around with the main world window size (eg. scrolling it sideways and making it larger) to see if you can spot the reagents window. Then drag it back to where you want it.

Gaowin Tue 04 Aug 2015 08:12 PM #15

Deleting the state file didn't change anything, and the window is maximized, so I'll try changing my resolution and see if I can spot it.

Gaowin Tue 04 Aug 2015 08:20 PM #16

I can only reduce the resolution and that didn't help. Would a complete reinstall of everything work, or is there a way to tweak the window settings so I can see it?

Nick Gammon Australia Forum Administrator Tue 04 Aug 2015 08:37 PM #17

Please open your plugins list (Shift+Ctrl+P) and then RH-double click the plugin in the plugins list. You should see the state file open. Copy and paste what you see into your reply here. It should look something like this:


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE muclient>
<!-- Saved on Saturday, November 03, 2012, 5:17 PM -->
<!-- MuClient version 4.85 -->
<!-- Written by Nick Gammon -->
<!-- Home Page: http://www.mushclient.com/ -->

<!-- Plugin state saved. Plugin: "Source_scanner". World: "smaug2". -->

<muclient>

<!-- variables -->

<variables
   muclient_version="4.85"
   world_file_version="15"
   date_saved="2012-11-03 17:17:00"
  >
  <variable name="filecount">317</variable>
</variables>
</muclient>

Gaowin Tue 04 Aug 2015 08:42 PM #18


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE muclient>
<!-- Saved on Tuesday, August 04, 2015, 2:37 PM -->
<!-- MuClient version 4.98 -->
<!-- Written by Nick Gammon -->
<!-- Home Page: http://www.mushclient.com/ -->

<!-- Plugin state saved. Plugin: "reagents_counter". World: "Materia Magica GMCP". -->

<muclient>

<!-- variables -->

<variables
   muclient_version="4.98"
   world_file_version="15"
   date_saved="2015-08-04 14:37:45"
  >
  <variable name="Gaowin_air">450</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_astral">3</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_earth">569</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_eth">18</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_fire">1572</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_focusing">0</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_gem">509</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_hematite">3</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_summoning">0</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_water">572</variable>
  <variable name="Gaowin_when">05/26/15 19:33:06</variable>
  <variable name="WINDOW_HEIGHT">50</variable>
  <variable name="WINDOW_WIDTH">112</variable>
  <variable name="airreags">a bat\'s wing|a bit of condensed cloud|a bottle of air bubbles|a broken wing|a cattail|a cloud fragment|a feather from a roc|a flask of tornado essence|a fragile bubble|a fragment of coconut husk|a phoenix egg|a pile of seagull droppings|a raven feather|a stiff brown feather|a sylph in a bottle|a toucan feather|a vial of neon|a wisp of fog|an angel feather|frozen wind|the inherited key of dira|the key of dira</variable>
  <variable name="astralreags">a beautiful crystal prism|a budding twig|a buleva crystal|a carefully polished burl|a cold flame|a crystal figurine|a crystallized lava rock|a diamond stud|a dilated\, blue eyeball|a dozen roses|a dracolich eye|a gem of death|a gem of dira|a gem of gath|a gem of ithrilis|a gem of life|a gem of maradas|a gem of vandyne|a glowing crystal shard|a large black pearl|a large quartz crystal|a meteorite|a miniature ankh of gath|a miniature ankh of maradas|a pegakorn tear|a set of star charts|a shimmering serpent\'s scale|a small crystal skull|a small golden feather|a small indicolite|a small meteorite|a small pouch of lich bone dust|a turkey\'s wishbone|a white feverfew blossom|an astral bauble|an extradimensional sludge|an ivory marble|kessler\'s lost astral reagent|the blackened skull of a yuan\-ti|the head of (.+) encased in ice|vyst\'s heart</variable>
  <variable name="earthreags">a bluebell flower|a browning mandrake leaf|a chunk of sea salt|a clump of crimson moss|a daemon heart|a fern leaf|a few pine needles|a giant boulder|a ginseng root|a handful of goldstone dust|a large shard of salt|a lazy snail|a mandrake leaf|a palm frond|a piece of bark|a piece of dry guano|a piece of petrified wood|a purple flower|a quartz stone|a shimmering amber scale|a single seashell|a tail of a dead mole|a twig|an empty bird\'s nest|an oak leaf|a small pebble|an underground fungus|dried silverthorn leaves|eye of newt|fifteen vertebrae|some candied sasquatch toe gunk|some earthworm innards|the claws of a dungeon rat|the inherited key of maradas|the key of maradas</variable>
  <variable name="enabled">true</variable>
  <variable name="ethreags">a bit of shadow|a bone from a gravedancer|a bubbling chartreuse vial|a ghost essence|a glowing piece of black moss|a lightning bolt|a midnight pearl|a silver scale|a small misshapen pearl|a soul in a bottle|a sparkling stone|a sphere of ethereal energy|a sunstone|a wayward spirit|a white sapphire|an ephemeral squid tentacle|an essence of the source|an ethereal reagent key|the horn from a unicorn</variable>
  <variable name="firereags">a bit of foxfire|a charred branch|a charred brick|a charred sliver of wood|a chunk of red volcanic rock|a chunk of underwater magma|a dragon tooth|a fine cigar|a fire stick|a fizzing purple beaker|a fragment of obsidian|a glowing ember|a limestone|a piece of dragon gizzard|a pinch of sulfur|a small pile of volcanic ash|a volcanic rock|an acidic leaf|some firepowder|the inherited key of gath|the key of gath</variable>
  <variable name="focusingreags">a clear focusing crystal</variable>
  <variable name="gemreags">a beautiful diamond|a crystalized fossil|a diamond|a fire opal|a fragment of amethyst|a gem reagent key|a geode|a hunk of crystal|a magician\'s ruby|a perfect diamond|a petrified seed|a polished black stone|a rose\-colored shard|a roughly hewn gem|a semi\-precious stone|a silver runestone|a small quartz crystal|a small sparkling diamond|a splinter of mithril|a tiny diamond|an opal gem|an opal gemstone|some specks of ore</variable>
  <variable name="hematitereags">a small piece of hematite</variable>
  <variable name="mw_d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f_windowflags">2</variable>
  <variable name="mw_d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f_windowmode">0</variable>
  <variable name="mw_d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f_windowx">1403</variable>
  <variable name="mw_d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f_windowy">444</variable>
  <variable name="show_mini">true</variable>
  <variable name="summoningreags">a summoning stone</variable>
  <variable name="waterreags">a bag of ice|a blob of llama spit|a bottle of mermaids tears|a clump of dried seaweed|a cracked seashell|a dolphin eye|a drop of ocean|a jar of frog eggs|a large pearl|a lump of fish gills|a piece of dried seaweed|a pinch of sea salt|a sea monkey|a sea shell|a shimmering white fish scale|a small guppy|a small puka shell|a smooth river rock|a vial of rose water|an eye of a tubeworm|an iridescent fish scale|dried\, freshwater kelp|raindrops in a bottle|the inherited key of ithrilis|the key of ithrilis</variable>
</variables>
</muclient>

Nick Gammon Australia Forum Administrator Wed 05 Aug 2015 04:35 AM #19

OK, well I suggest you close the client first (otherwise it might save on top of this file). Then with that file open in Notepad or similar change these lines:


  <variable name="mw_d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f_windowx">1403</variable>
  <variable name="mw_d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f_windowy">444</variable>

Make them smaller so you have some hope of finding the window, eg. 50, 50


  <variable name="mw_d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f_windowx">50</variable>
  <variable name="mw_d2b442f2da9a95f34f5a199f_windowy">50</variable>

Restart the client and you should see the window. If not, something strange is going on.

Gaowin Wed 05 Aug 2015 12:57 PM #20

It's definitely something weird, because the file name that double right clicking shows doesn't exit in that folder, even though the path is correct, but if I tell the notepad that it opened to save, it asks to overwrite.

If I use file explorer to copy in a modified file that I had it save as, it doesn't ask to overwrite, but Mushclient is still using the old settings.

I'm going to try and uninstall then delete the folder, then reinstall and try it again.

I also tried looking in each of the files and it wasn't there.

Gaowin Wed 05 Aug 2015 01:55 PM #21

I did a complete reinstall into the users/Jack folder, and now I have the mini window and can resize and move it, but count reags goes through my bags, but neither the mini window or the summary at the end of count reags is showing anything.

Gaowin Wed 05 Aug 2015 02:03 PM #22

Also, if the plugin is running, and I type look in bag, it also adds look in 12.bag.

Gaowin Wed 05 Aug 2015 03:07 PM #23

I figured out the problem Nick. For some reason, Windows 10 thought that reagents_count was from another computer and blocked the file.

All I did to get it working was tell Windows to unblock it.

Fiendish USA Global Moderator Wed 05 Aug 2015 07:47 PM #24

Quote:
Windows 10 thought that reagents_count was from another computer and blocked the file

It did what? Is there a website somewhere documenting this...feature?

Nick Gammon Australia Forum Administrator Wed 05 Aug 2015 09:02 PM #25

Gaowin said:

I figured out the problem Nick. For some reason, Windows 10 thought that reagents_count was from another computer and blocked the file.

Wow. Anyway, glad it is working. :)

Gaowin Wed 05 Aug 2015 10:52 PM #26

It turns out that all the .xml files in the plugins/MM folder were blocked too, so I searched the web and found this easy solution instead of right clicking on each file:

Option 1: (If you do this before you unzip the downloaded file)
1. Right click on the zip file.
2. Choose properties
3. Choose unblock in the bottom right of the screen.
4. Choose apply

Option 2: (If you already unzipped it)

1. Go into the folder and select all.
2. Right click and choose send to..compressed file
3. Delete the original files
4. Unzip the files into the original folder, or move them from the folder created by unzip in the correct folder.

Shadowfyr USA Thu 06 Aug 2015 12:26 PM #27

Hmm. Actually Windows 7 has this, "From another computer." thing too. I think its Microsoft's silly answer to the Unix file flag, which makes programs, "Do not execute.", if they are installed certain ways, like from a zip file, and thus potentially "unsafe". I had to keep forcing, "Run as administrator.", on one application, which is to say right click - Run as, not just setting the file to do so, for a while, before I got annoyed and decided to google why the frack it was happening. Turns out, if you bring up the files properties, i.e. right click - Properties, one of the tabs will show it as locked, or some such, and you can unlock it, but, presumably only if you are using an account with admin privileges.

I have no clue why its doing this to an XML file, other then that it may be marking the file as "do not run", or something, as a result of being in a zip, instead of generated "on you system", or otherwise saved via a) an installer, or b) off the internet, manually.

I find it sort of a toss up. On one hand.. it adds a bit of extra safety, which Windows didn't have, but on the other.. who the F knows what else it will break...

Nick Gammon Australia Forum Administrator Thu 06 Aug 2015 07:57 PM #28

It seems odd to me that you cannot "run" an XML file. Particularly as I chose that extension for plugins principally because they had XML inside them, they aren't intended to be executed by your web browser. I could have called them ".plugin" files.

That flag appears to be stopped MUSHclient from just opening that file for reading. I don't see what Windows is really saving you from by doing that.

Gaowin Fri 07 Aug 2015 01:15 AM #29

It blocked your .mcl files too, so things like update plugins lastlist stopped remembering what it updated.

I feel for you Nick, I was in tech support for 15 years, but think how boring it would be without players like me to bring up these challenging (Aggravating) issues:)

Shadowfyr USA Fri 07 Aug 2015 12:48 PM #30

Well, it appears that MCL at least can be a Media Center Link, which is sort of an app for Windows Media Center. And, when it comes to xml in general, I suppose Windows is now paranoid about anything that might contain script, which "does" execute in a browser, in any fashion at all. The former however is, technically, a deprecated file format for Windows. Which, I suppose, might be another reason new versions of Windows are paranoid about them. Sadly, this isn't the Apple OS, where a file is tagged now just with an extension, but meta data, which the OS can recognize, defining "what" program it belongs to. :(